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		<title>By: Dan Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am loving these comments. I'll have to look into some of these purported similarities, and maybe do more comparisons in a later post.

I do want to address your comment, Renaissance Man, regarding "the idea that certain harmonic combinations are innately appealing to the average human being."

I think that's a pretty serious overstatement. Many non-Western musical traditions either have very different concepts of how harmony works, or eschew functional harmony altogether. Even when that's not the case, the music is often distinct enough to make such generalizations impossible; Indian classical music, for example, uses scales that don't fit our system of equal-tempered semitones, so it's not possible for us to use the same chords in the first place.

At best, one could argue for the universality of certain harmonic progressions in the Western tradition, but even that would be difficult to prove. There are tons of people who don't care for rickrolling or roborolling music, I'm sad to say. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am loving these comments. I&#8217;ll have to look into some of these purported similarities, and maybe do more comparisons in a later post.</p>
<p>I do want to address your comment, Renaissance Man, regarding &#8220;the idea that certain harmonic combinations are innately appealing to the average human being.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a pretty serious overstatement. Many non-Western musical traditions either have very different concepts of how harmony works, or eschew functional harmony altogether. Even when that&#8217;s not the case, the music is often distinct enough to make such generalizations impossible; Indian classical music, for example, uses scales that don&#8217;t fit our system of equal-tempered semitones, so it&#8217;s not possible for us to use the same chords in the first place.</p>
<p>At best, one could argue for the universality of certain harmonic progressions in the Western tradition, but even that would be difficult to prove. There are tons of people who don&#8217;t care for rickrolling or roborolling music, I&#8217;m sad to say. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Krpata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Krpata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One level in Mega Man 3 -- I think it was Hard Man's -- had music that sounded a lot like the "Zestfully clean" jingle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One level in Mega Man 3 &#8212; I think it was Hard Man&#8217;s &#8212; had music that sounded a lot like the &#8220;Zestfully clean&#8221; jingle.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another one: the "At Dawn" theme from Speed Highway in &lt;em&gt;Sonic Adventure&lt;/em&gt; sounds like a mix of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" and Toni Braxton's "Un-Break My Heart." Maybe that's just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another one: the &#8220;At Dawn&#8221; theme from Speed Highway in <em>Sonic Adventure</em> sounds like a mix of Gloria Gaynor&#8217;s &#8220;I Will Survive&#8221; and Toni Braxton&#8217;s &#8220;Un-Break My Heart.&#8221; Maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Grobstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grobstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there's the Elecman / Journey's Faithfully mystery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there&#8217;s the Elecman / Journey&#8217;s Faithfully mystery</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they can work Rick Astley into the recently teased Chrono Trigger DS.  Robo travels back to 1987 A.D. and gets inspired?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they can work Rick Astley into the recently teased Chrono Trigger DS.  Robo travels back to 1987 A.D. and gets inspired?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Krpata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Krpata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: The Renaissance Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Renaissance Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it lends credence to the idea that certain harmonic combinations are innately appealing to the average human being. If there's anyone in the video game world who would be able to zoom in on those specific combinations, it'd be Mitsuda and Uematsu. Legends also abound when you also look at the song "Say Hello" off of Jay-Z's American Gangster Album that it's earily close to the forest theme from CT. I'm not a musician, so I can't speak for myself on that matter. However, I do find the connections between that soundtrack and mainstream popular songs to be very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it lends credence to the idea that certain harmonic combinations are innately appealing to the average human being. If there&#8217;s anyone in the video game world who would be able to zoom in on those specific combinations, it&#8217;d be Mitsuda and Uematsu. Legends also abound when you also look at the song &#8220;Say Hello&#8221; off of Jay-Z&#8217;s American Gangster Album that it&#8217;s earily close to the forest theme from CT. I&#8217;m not a musician, so I can&#8217;t speak for myself on that matter. However, I do find the connections between that soundtrack and mainstream popular songs to be very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... just... wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; just&#8230; wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nhexima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nhexima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Gallant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps next you'd like to tackle the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_3#Music_controversy" rel="nofollow"&gt;Michael Jackson / Sonic 3&lt;/a&gt; rumour ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps next you&#8217;d like to tackle the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_3#Music_controversy" rel="nofollow">Michael Jackson / Sonic 3</a> rumour ;)</p>
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